Productive Is Tandem X Visual’s One-Stop Shop for Managing Work

Productive Is Tandem X Visual’s One-Stop Shop for Managing Work

Tandem X Visuals is a social media production agency that drives brand and business growth through photography, video production, and social media marketing services. Always on the run, they needed an overview of their business and projects at all times. We spoke with part of their team to learn about the success they’ve experienced since they’ve been running their agency in Productive.

Can you tell us a bit about Tandem X Visuals?

We’re a video production agency based in Saskatchewan, Canada. Our focus is social media production through photography and video production. As a company, we believe that everyone has a story to be told and a way to represent that with visual excellence.

What were you using before Productive? Why did Productive make sense for your business?

Wyatt: As one of the owners of a video production company, Productive made a lot of sense for us just because of the scale of our business and the locations that we’re at, and the number of projects we have on the go. Productive allowed us to take everything that was up in the air and put it down into one spot, so we have an overview look and know exactly what’s happening at all times with the business.

Zach: One of the reasons why we chose Productive was because of how scalable it is and how customizable it is to our company’s specific needs.

Josh: Productive really gives us everything we need as a production company. There’s more than just resource planning, there’s more than just scheduling, there’s more than just budgets, there’s more than just task management. Productive allows us to run our entire company. It really is our one-stop shop for everything we would need to run our business.

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Productive really gives us everything we need as a production company. There’s more than just resource planning, there’s more than just scheduling, there’s more than just budgets, there’s more than just task management. Productive allows us to run our entire company. It really is our one-stop shop for everything we would need to run our business.

How has Productive specifically helped you in your roles?

Marshall: As an editor, Productive makes my day a lot easier. Everything from the organization to our communication with the rest of the production team. It’s really important for me to keep focus and not constantly be stepping away from what I’m doing to check in on any questions that I may have.

Productive allows me to just very easily check in on a project, without completely detracting my attention from what I’m working on. Allowing me to stay in a good groove and keep my focus where it’s meant to be. I can very easily leave a comment for my producer or videographers on the same project. It’s just a really simple way of keeping conversations organized by project.

Josh: When I look at how Productive really helped grow our business, I look at the individualized impact that the software had. Every person in our company has a slightly different role—from videographers to video editors, to project managers, to video producers, to digital marketing managers. Everyone on the team has a different set of responsibilities.

Productive allowed us to navigate an autonomous workflow and the happiness I can see in employees when they’re able to just work and just deliver their best, and not worry about operational burdens and gigantic checklists or anything… I look at that and I go “that’s a success metric for us”.

How do you feel your business has transformed?

Marshall: Productive transformed our business in the best way possible. When we first started the company, we were a smaller team and the software we were using at the time got us by, but just barely, and we knew that we needed something a little bit bigger and better, just like Productive. It allowed us to scale the company and grow with us, and give us the tools and the abilities and the reporting that we needed to grow the company.

Josh: It’s not specifically the budgets, it’s not the task lists, it’s not the projects—it’s really the happiness that Productive brings our employees. It allows them to work in the way that they want to, as opposed to being forced to run an existing system that was built for someone else, with a different set of needs.

So, Productive really allows us to cater the software around our employees, to make sure that they achieve the best they can. And when they achieve the best they can, that means, as a company—we’re achieving the best we can.

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Infinum Scaled From 70 to 350 People In the Last Five Years Using Productive

Infinum Scaled From 70 to 350 People In the Last Five Years Using Productive

Infinum Grew 350% Using Productive

Recognized by trade and industry authorities such as Deloitte and Inc. 5000, Infinum is a renowned digital agency that partners with leading brands to envision and build beautiful digital products. For over 14 years, their apps and websites have been used by millions across the globe. In the past five years, Infinum grew from 70 to 350 people, while using only Productive as a tool for running their business. To learn how they successfully navigated their growth, we spoke with Luka Višić, Operations Manager and Ervin Jagatić, Head of Client Services.

Tell us about your roles and responsibilities at Infinum.

Luka: I’ve been managing the agency’s resources for the past four years. By manage, I mean I’ve been working on allocating our talent across different projects and clients and matching our talent with their needs. Around 250 people at Infinum are a part of production, so we have a lot of resources to manage on a daily basis. The job is very dynamic. Just last week, four or five projects were downsized at once. That influenced around 15 people to be left without work for the coming period. The job is really time-sensitive and it makes you have to learn how to communicate changes and expectations with so many different characters.  

Ervin: I came to Infinum five years ago and started off as a Project manager. Before I worked as a programmer and product specialist. The great part about working here was having one place to track time and automatically see expenses and profit per each project. That was the first big benefit that I saw in Productive. 

As our work developed and our team got bigger, I became Head of Client Services. Now I’m in charge of monitoring all our delivery and I make sure that our clients are happy with our performance and output. Through Reports, we started monitoring our production.

What did you use for resource management before Productive?

Luka: Before Productive, we used Hubplanner. Around three years ago we switched to Productive when they released the Scheduling feature. What’s great about using Productive’s Scheduling feature is that we gave a lot of feedback while it was being developed. It’s almost like we got a tailor-made resource planning tool. As the agency is constantly growing, we’re now facing a new challenge: how to keep everything visually accessible. Currently, we can get a high-level view of schedules by putting a few screens together.

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What did project management look like five years ago?

Ervin: Back then, task management was quite rudimentary, but Productive has developed a ton ever since. After becoming a team lead, I started working with the rest of the project management team on a higher level. We were looking into Reports in Productive. Nowadays, not a week goes by that I don’t go through reports. 

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“Reports have become our central place to follow key metrics, analytics, numbers, graphs, and—simply said—the pulse of our agency. Currently, it’s hard to imagine what our jobs would look like without reports. It’s a lock-in feature for us, for sure.”

You’ve been using Reports since 2016. How much easier have your jobs been since then?

Ervin: The great thing about decision making at Infinum is that thanks to Reports, each decision is based on data. Our business decisions are never made on an inner feeling or intuition. Productive gives you answers to questions like what’s the profit, how much are the expenses, what’s the projected revenue, what’s the utilization? That entire set of key metrics is what gives management a basis to move forward. Without tracking time in detail and keeping track of expenses, there’s no way you can make the best possible decisions. 
 
Reports have become our central place to follow key metrics, analytics, numbers, graphs, and—simply said—the pulse of our agency. Currently, it’s hard to imagine what our jobs would look like without reports. It’s a lock-in feature for us, for sure.

You’ve grown 350% in the past 5 years. How has having all these key metrics at your fingertips helped you with hiring?

Luka: Hiring is another area of our work that’s extremely tricky, so having all our data in one place helped us immensely. There’s no following a gut feeling, wondering if we have or won’t have enough work. We go and check to see: do we have a lot of overtime? How many hours were tracked on each project? Then we check out our teams and see which team is tracking more overtime and which teams are tracking more production hours. All that data helps us understand whether we need to hire more, charge more, give a client a discount, increase a budget, etc. 

Growth in numbers:

Stable increase in billable utilization year on year

Profitability of projects through time: in Q1 and Q2 of 2021, we saw a 27% increase in profit

Better decision-making based on data, not assumptions

On a weekly basis, our project managers save 3 hours of time

Our forecasting horizon increased to 180 days (two business quarters)

Our number of clients doubled in the last four years

Which key agency metrics and numbers do you regularly keep an eye on?

Luka: On a daily basis, we monitor:

Production utilization by teams

Forecast of production utilization

Overtime by teams and people

The Overtime by teams and people insight gives us a clear picture for hiring and the Who’s late with time tracking report is super important for us so we have the most up-to-date reporting possible.

Production utilization by teams

Forecast of production utilization

In terms of forecasting, one of the most important metrics we have to watch is: do we have people available in the next 2-3 months, or not? 

Ervin: Other insights that we follow on a daily and weekly basis are:

Recognized revenue per quarter/year

In this report we compare the revenue we forecasted the year before and recognized revenue from last quarter. 

Production delivered hours by engagement type: in-house vs. contractors

This is another piece of data we monitor: the amount of hours contractors work in comparison to our in-house teams.

Project level insights

The great thing about this report is that we can easily sync with the rest of the production team and quickly give clients insight as to where we stand with a particular project.

How much time do you think you’ve saved using Pulse? 

Ervin: I think it’s more of a trigger for getting certain people informed. Some time does get saved, but what’s better about Pulse for me is that you don’t have to actively think about keeping an eye on certain metrics. For example, if I want our financial manager to get informed about all the budgets that were closed in the past quarter, I just set up a pulse to automatically do that for me, instead of me spending time on it and thinking about it.  

How would you feel if you didn’t have Productive?

Ervin: If someone told us that we’d need to move to a different tool, I think that’d be nearly impossible. I think it’d take a year and a half to migrate to one or more tools.

Luka: There was no point in time when we saw that we needed to use an additional tool. We’ve been monitoring all our key metrics in Productive since the beginning, and I can’t imagine work without it.

Tell us about the integration with Slack.

Ervin: Since Slack is our primary communication tool, now we save some time on regularly checking notifications and updates in Productive. Since we’ve connected Slack and Productive, now we get automatic updates.

How has Productive’s Invoice Builder been beneficial for you? 

Ervin: Auto-generating invoices in Productive is a game-changer for project managers in Productive. There’s no copying and pasting and double-checking if all the data is accurate. Productive has really eliminated the chance of human errors. All you need to do is make sure that everything in your budget is correct and then you pull that information up when you go to build an invoice. After that, it’s one click to invoice and the Finance team takes over. On average, I save a few hours per month on invoicing. 

Last, but not least: have you started managing PTO in Productive, too? 

Luka: We’ve recently switched from Calamari to Productive to manage time off. The flow around approving and managing schedules is complicated in our agency. With over 350 employees, there are many people who need to be informed about time off, and having that in Productive now is going to be a big money saver in terms of overhead costs.

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SRH Uses Productive As Their Single Source of Truth

SRH Uses Productive As Their Single Source of Truth

SRH has been using Productive for two and a half years. As an agency, they focus on adapting their processes based on their clients’ needs, and using Productive has helped them stay flexible in responding to those needs. We spoke with SRH’s Managing Director, Jonathan Gundlach to hear how SRH became more efficient and grew using Productive.

Tell us a bit about your agency and your role at SRH.

We’re SRH and we’re about 7 years old. Since I arrived three years ago, my role has shifted and grown. First I was a project manager, then I was the operations manager when we started using the tool, and now I’m the managing director! 

We recently reorganized internally to give our teams more autonomy and responsibility in SRH’s growth. I’m excited about the way that we’re able to manage everything in Productive, especially the project financials, overhead costs, and the expenses and budgets within projects. The more I learn about the tool, the more I love it. We’re excited about all the offerings it has for us.

What’s your background in the agency business and what’s your experience with business management tools?

I’ve been in the industry for about 25 years now. Throughout the years I was in charge of finding agency management tools. I came to SRH three years ago when there were about 10 of us on the team. There was no time tracking and we did our invoicing through spreadsheets and Quickbooks. 

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So your role within the organization changed: you used to be a project and operations manager, and now you’re the managing director. What benefits are you experiencing for your role now? 

Before, as the operations manager, once something became a project I was spending a lot of time managing information within those projects. Now I’m mentoring Sara and Julie—our project managers—on how to manage budgets and do things within the tool. They are both uber-talented, smart people and are now showing me better ways to do things, which is awesome. 

I think it’s really helpful that we’re all using Productive on a daily basis. Now my use of the tool is on a higher level though, and more focused on looking into reports and data.

“Productive gives us a central place to see where we are. It actually shows us how we’re doing on our budgets and it gives us a place to manage our out-of-pocket expenses.”

Can you remember what it was like managing projects and operations before Productive? What did you lack?

Before, above all, we lacked transparency. At that time our projects were simpler and there weren’t as many of them, but just the fact that we were using various spreadsheets made it hard to have all the data we needed. 

Productive gives us a central place to see where we are. It actually shows us how we’re doing on our budgets and it gives us a place to manage our out-of-pocket expenses. We also do some pretty complicated video shoots and production and it helps manage those complex projects.

Does it help you monitor your profitability?

I think that in project management there’s a tendency to focus solely on profitability, but it’s inevitable that projects will go over budget, and that’s ok. However, it’s important to have transparency on where that stands, and Productive gives us that visibility.

The other feature we really embraced is having multiple budgets within a project. Now I can close sections of a project and I have the ability to move money around, which I really like. We just started using the PTO, the time off management feature, and that also makes my life easier. I also really like how Scheduling gives me an overview of resource planning.

I tried a lot of different software in the past and none had the sales to project management, invoicing to task and resource management in one tool. To me, all those features are the holy grail of an agency management tool.

Would you say that Productive is an end-to-end agency management tool?

Absolutely. I tried a lot of different software in the past and none had the sales to project management, invoicing to task and resource management in one tool. To me, all those features are the holy grail of an agency management tool. I knew from my experience that it would help us grow. Now I can’t imagine using any tool other than Productive. 

I’m sure you have future plans for SRH. Are you confident that Productive will be able to support your growth plans?

Yes, absolutely. The modular aspect of it suits our growth. We have all our people in Productive divided into teams which we assign to clients. If only half of the clients are currently active, using the flexibility of custom fields we can see who’s active and inactive. Once you understand how things work in Productive, it’s very flexible and there’s a lot of possibilities for growth and expansion.

What was the learning curve like and how was it onboarding the team?

Around 80% of the agency uses Productive for time tracking. The project managers and I are using it most and we’re still learning as we go. We embrace the changes that keep coming and we regularly make recommendations that we think would make things easier and better. I think they’ve been received well.

Would you say that your agency’s work has become more streamlined?

Yes, I’m very disciplined around putting new opportunities in as sales deals and tracking them all the way through, then marking them as sold. That’s an area where I know I’m putting in the data the right way. With time, I’m sure we’ll be getting great results out of the data in reports.

Last, but not least: how would you feel if you didn’t have Productive?

Just based on my history and experience, if we weren’t using Productive now, and we’ve been using it for two and a half years—there’s a very good chance that whatever we would have wouldn’t be fitting all our needs right now. I’ve looked at other tools and I’ve seen how they work. We’d probably be integrating with other tools and that would be frustrating and time consuming.

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With Productive, Brand Labs Development Agency Has Full Transparency of Their Business

With Productive, Brand Labs Development Agency Has Full Transparency of Their Business

Brand Labs is a development agency based in the US. Before moving to Productive in June 2019, the team was looking for an agency management platform so that they could drop multiple tools they used before. We spoke with Co-President Michelle Pittell about the impacts they’re seeing from using Productive and what they like about the tool.

You’re a development agency of 24 people. We know you serve mid-level to Fortune 500 companies. What markets do you operate in? 

Our main markets are e-commerce, so most people will come to us if they have a custom development need. We decided to drop some services recently because development has always been our bread and butter.

I knew without seeing numbers that certain projects and clients weren’t making money for us, but once having switched over to Productive—it proved that we weren’t making money. Once the data was there, we were really seeing where the money was coming in from. It was very easy to correlate how much we were paying for something vs. how much we were making.

“This is a person, this is how much that person makes, this is our overhead, this is how much we’re charging our client. The tool gives us full transparency, across the board. From our standpoint, Productive erases the seed of doubt. Data drives my decisions, and now I have all the data to make the right decisions.”

I’m sure you even started to charge your services differently after getting this new data.

From an internal standpoint, Productive has shifted the way we look at things because we’re able to see things very clearly now. This is a person, this is how much that person makes, this is our overhead, this is how much we’re charging our client. The tool gives us full transparency, across the board. From our standpoint, Productive erases the seed of doubt. Data drives my decisions, and now I have all the data to make the right decisions.

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“The user interface is fast and smooth, it’s a very single-page application—and it works really well. You’ve hit this balance where it’s powerful, but it’s not too complicated.“

Before Productive you were using multiple tools. You were using Basecamp, right?

We were in Basecamp for project management, client communication, and task organization. We took what we were doing there and just brought it into Productive. We had built our own time tracking app and we had all our deployments, billing, and everything else separate. 

Were you looking for an all-in-one agency system? Did anything in Productive surprise you once you started using it?

When we knew we were going to move off of Basecamp, we were looking for a platform that would give us the most of what we were hoping for. We weren’t assuming that any tool would dot every i and cross every t, so we looked at all the popular project management tools and we did trials of everything. 

For us, the biggest selling point was that we were able to use it for the sales funnel along with project management and invoicing—and time tracking, too. Previously, we were using four different tools for all those activities. We were able to cancel a lot of our other subscriptions and invest in one tool.

So the sales funnel mixed with the project management, invoicing, and time tracking was what sold it for us, as it was a unique blend. It made sense, and it was simple.

So things like profitability data and utilization reportsthose were things that you didn’t expect when you first started looking for a tool?

Yeah, we had built our own time tracker and we had utilization reports before, but because we built it, we had to keep maintaining it.

Can you tell us how your role has changed since you switched to Productive? You mentioned that your decisions are more data-driven.

All of our invoicing being in one place makes the lives of our project managers much easier and consistent. That was an immediate benefit of the tool, as well as the time tracking. 

I myself recently moved into the co-president role, so with that, I had to start looking at numbers much more. Reports have been huge for me to see where we are today and plan out where we need to be in the coming years. Now my focus is on the billing and our key metrics. We can see the data any way we want. I feel like there are no limits, we have everything we need.

Our users often say that Productive’s UI is simple, but there’s a lot of complexity and depth to the tool. Do you feel like you’re missing out on any data? What was the learning curve like for you?

I think from the start it’s been very intuitive. You might not know how to do everything from the beginning, but it is above all things intuitive. The help articles are just very easily digestible and readable. It’s very simple, direct, and efficient. I feel like there has not been a single hold-up there. The only hold-up would be personal, like—do I have the time to look into this today? 

“You guys are funny and nice and accommodating and easy to work with. For us, every time we would chat with Support or look at something, we’d comment: They’re just so easy, they’re so nice!”

Do you have a favorite part of the tool?

One thing that I really like about Productive is the support. We all say: We love Productive’s Support. You guys are funny and nice and accommodating and easy to work with. For us, every time we would chat with Support or look at something, we’d comment: They’re just so easy, they’re so nice!

So that was a huge selling point and something that we comment on often, the updates that we’re getting and the customer service. I never feel silly if I email Gabrijela and ask her a simple question or to walk me through a report. 

Overall, how have your agency’s operations evolved since using Productive? Do you have big growth plans in the next few years?

Well, we look at reporting entirely differently now. Again, bringing our time tracking and invoicing into one tool made a huge difference. What we like is that we can also assign tasks to clients so that they know if they have anything to do. We also use Slack and Github, so we need to balance what goes into Productive, what stays in Github, what stays in Slack. We have an entirely new sales process and then we just roll won deals into a new project.

In terms of growth, we’re not looking to be a gigantic agency, we’re looking to be a good agency. For us, that’s the priority.

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How Contra Agency Makes the Most of Productive’s API

How Contra Agency Makes the Most of Productive’s API

Contra is a leading London-based agency with over 20 years of experience in all things digital. Since April 2020, Contra Agency has been managing all its design and development of digital content, websites, and web apps in Productive. 

After less than half a year that Contra’s been using our platform, we spoke with co-founders Roberto Ciarleglio and Ben Edge to see how they switched to working remotely and made the most of Productive’s API.

Tell us a bit about Contra. What markets do you operate in, who are your clients?

Our work is split into two main categories: we help our clients with their marketing and we help digitally transform them with websites and web apps. We work mainly in B2B. Some of our clients are big finance companies, quite a lot are in the tech space, and we also work with some top universities—like Oxford and Cambridge in the UK.

You switched to Productive recently, right?

We started the process about nine months ago. We found Productive, signed up for a free trial, had a few demo calls. To give you some background, when we started our agency 20 years ago, we didn’t have any agency management tool at all. I don’t think that even existed back then! Soon, we realized that we need to be organized.

The first thing we started out with was Sharepoint. That served us for a few years, but we lost money realizing that we didn’t invoice certain projects. Then, about 15 years ago, we started the hunt for a system. 

The first one was Traffic, which was a disaster. The basics were wrong, and it would calculate incorrectly. Then we switched to Streamtime. Those two tools just didn’t do enough. Alongside those, we’d use BaseCamp, Trello, and various other tools. Streamtime did invoicing, but wasn’t suitable for project planning and clients to use.

Part of our journey was to find a system that could do everything that we needed it to do. We’ve looked at so many of these systems and done so many trials that we knew what a lot of our questions were.

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So the number one thing you were looking for was to have an all-in-one tool?


I guess either a tool that could do everything or a tool that we could integrate well so that collectively, it could do everything without us losing things. Your system is good because it does a lot, but also the API is great so we were able to integrate it with our other tools. For example, it doesn’t have a messaging system that can compete with Slack, but we can integrate it with Slack. 

I think the other thing that we really like is that all our staff is really happy with the switch. The user interface is fast and smooth, it’s a very single-page application—and it works really well. You’ve hit this balance where it’s powerful, but it’s not too complicated. Our previous system was Accelo, and it was massive. You could do everything under the sun, but you had to do it in a certain way.

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What’s good about Productive is that it’s powerful, but it doesn’t force you to do things in a certain way. You can be creative in the way you use it. You don’t want to fight a system, you want to work with a system.

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It’s important that your team adopted to it well!

Now our team can fill out timesheets really quickly. Even if it’s only a small amount that’s causing a delay. Eventually, when you have to do loads of time entries, it becomes very laborious. Whereas in Productive, you can do your timesheet very, very quickly.

And how was the transition to remote work for your team?

A lot has changed in the company since we all started working from home. We had to instantly form new habits. Combined, the team has probably been working more efficiently than it has been for a long time. 

Can you let us in on how your team is using the tool? What do your daily stand-ups look like?

We have the Scheduling view up on our screen when we do our daily stand-ups and two project managers who run the meetings. We tend to not plan too far in advance, only a week or two, though we may have some rough placeholders down the line.

Placeholders are very quick and I like the way they feed into the timesheets. When we first started to look at using placeholders, we came from a background where every task in the plan was scheduled. It took us a while to realize the benefits of blocking time to work on a project. 

The reason we look at Scheduling is not so much to look too far in advance on a daily basis, it’s to look at today’s workload while having a sense of why we need to do something—because there’s something else coming up in the near future.

So Scheduling is your main starting point each day? 

We base our stand-ups around Scheduling because it gives us a sense of what the whole company is doing and you can see into the future a bit. The reason we look at Scheduling is not so much to look too far in advance on a daily basis, it’s to look at today’s workload while having a sense of why we need to do somethingbecause there’s something else coming up in the near future. 

Is there anything you particularly like about the tool?

It’s really encouraging to see that there’s a roadmap and features coming out regularly. It’s also really nice to have a dialogue with you guys, especially in the chat. 

Thanks, we’re constantly working on the tool. Every week we go through around 50 customer requests to see what many people need. 

We wouldn’t have wanted to take on a product that wasn’t constantly being improved. It’s really encouraging because we know that software is never finished. 

“Because Productive is flexible, we were able to create some patterns for more flexible projects and other patterns for more rigid projects. This has actually helped us to be more consistent. If we need to create another project structure, we can still do that because we have the flexibility with the boards.

Even though you’ve only been using Productive for a few months, do you think that you’ve mastered the platform? What was the learning curve like for you?

It was fairly intuitive. My biggest questions were around how we do things as an agency. I was really keen on speaking with your colleagues to ask how they’d approach certain problems. I’m prepared to change the way I think if it makes sense. I don’t really want to fight a piece of software and make it do something a certain way if it wasn’t designed for that. 

In terms of the learning curve for our team, we had one screen share and nobody’s really struggled since. It’s an open book, a blank canvas in some areas. You’ve got relationships and entities, customers, projects, contacts, companies…all these things are fixed. But how you run a project is very open. You can have one board, you can have ten boards. You can have one budget, you can have 100 budgets in one project. There are so many different ways of approaching it. 

To be clear, we run different projects in different ways. Some are agile, some waterfall, some linear. Because Productive is flexible, we were able to create some patterns for more flexible projects and other patterns for more rigid projects. This has actually helped us to be more consistent. If we need to create another project structure, we can still do that because we have the flexibility with the boards.

We wanted to work out how to structure certain projects and teams so that we could give our project managers a framework that would work. 

Were you pleasantly surprised by a certain feature or a capability of Productive? New metrics, data, anything you didn’t expect when you bought the platform?

From a business level, now we make better decisions regarding our utilization. I’m understanding new things about profitability. I’ve made certain assumptions before, and some of those assumptions have proven to be wrong. For some projects, we weren’t sure how far over budget we were, and now we can really see. 

In terms of features, I’m particularly impressed with your reports. The filtering and the options you can do with those reports is too much! The fact that you can add custom formulas, change how things are rounded, enable colors to change above a certain number… It’s pretty impressive!

“It’s difficult to create something that looks very simple, but actually has a lot of depth to it, in a way that you can customize, but it isn’t difficult to customize. That’s the sweet spot of software. I think you guys have done a really good job there.

So the fact that you can customize data and how it’s reported is something that you’re really happy with?

It is because we know how difficult it is to do that. 

I think of this a lot about Productive: when you look at it, at a glance, it seems very simple and maybe even like it doesn’t have a lot of features. But then when you start using it, you realize that there’s a lot of very good attention to detail, and that’s a really difficult balance in software.

We create software for our clients as well, and it’s difficult to create something that looks very simple, but actually has a lot of depth to it, in a way that you can customize, but it isn’t difficult to customize. That’s the sweet spot of software. I think you guys have done a really good job there.

Our customers from Texas to South Africa are saying: when switching to remote work, everything was already there, we just made sure they would really track time on a daily basis so we could plan resources better. It’s great to hear that you’re experiencing business benefits using Productive, too. 

I think you need to run it like a machine, but it needs to be fun as well—otherwise, it’s like being in the army. Productive has got a good balance of being structured, flexible, and enjoyable to use. 

In terms of integrations, there are a lot of things we’ve done ourselves. When we build a typical web project, we go through a number of phases. We try to do as much QA and validations upfront as we can. What we’ve been able to do with the API and the integrations we’ve written with Slack is create a whole series of board templates: all the different projects, tasks, and TODO lists. Anything that we expect to be ticked off before the next phase. A project manager can just go to Slack and create a new project for QA, and the command goes off and creates that board. We’ve become more efficient.

Let’s talk about that API client that you came up with. Was the Slackbot you mentioned the main idea behind it, or did you create any other integrations?

We did quite a few. The Quickbooks integration was the first one. The integration you’ve already got with Quickbooks is great for getting invoicing done, but there were a few gaps that we felt were a challenge for us. For example, it’s common for our staff to create an invoice and then for someone to say “Can you add in a PO number?” or “Can you change the date on it?” With the way the integration stands at the moment, you can’t re-push the invoice into Quickbooks.

Another thing is that we have 20 years’ worth of data in QuickBooks, where different service lines are linked to different incomes. To not lose that data going forward, we wrote a webhook that listens to a new update or a new invoice, reads through your service lines, checks with QuickBooks, then updates the new invoice and sorts it all out.

That was where it started. We only needed four or five endpoints on your API, so we just built them. Then, we thought it’d be really great if we had templates for reports, so we built that. After that, we thought it’d be good that support emails we receive would automatically turn into tasks. I’ve written probably a quarter of the endpoints. I just kind of saw it as a challenge and decided to write out the endpoints that we were using. So I went a bit crazy and wrote the whole thing!

A lot of our integrations are within Slack. We use a lot of Slackbots to trigger things in Productive, and we use your webhooks to trigger things as well.

It’s really nice that some companies are willing to shape Productive in a way that fits them.

Well, that’s really our brand: we call ourselves “doers who get it done”. We’ve always been people who build our own things. The thing about your API is that it gives us the power to do what we need to do and fill any gap that we need to⁠—because it’s flexible enough.

For the open-source library Contra Agency wrote to consume our API, click here.
For our API client, click here. For our API documentation, visit this page.

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Using Productive, DotDev Has Grown 50% YoY For the Past Three Years

Using Productive, DotDev Has Grown 50% YoY For the Past Three Years

DotDev is a product development company with three core values: creating long-lasting relationships, reliability, and excellence in everything they do. Following these values has gained them a reputation as Australia’s leading omni-channel integration partner across platforms such as Apparel21, Retail Express, and SAP. After 24 months that DotDev has been using Productive, we chatted with Co-founder and Technical Director, Brendon Nicholas to see how their business has transformed.

You specialize in e-commerce, right? Do you have more diverse clients now after the crisis started? What does your company look like now, in 2020?

We’re a team of around 34 now. Probably 60-70% of our work is related to fashion brands, the rest is product development and larger retailers. Now there are a lot of startup-based things, like home delivery. A lot of brands are going from large, retailer models to online models. There have been a few bigger changes since we started using Productive. The biggest change from the project management side was when we got to a team of 20. We broke down into three separate teams and brought a Tech and a Delivery Lead in.

Which industries do you serve?

Our customer base has changed from the quantity of projects, we’re definitely not doing as many at a time. We moved to a lot larger budgets and a lot longer projects, and they’re a bit more technical and custom, rather than smaller, higher-volume stuff we were doing before. I’d say we manage around 7-8 larger projects at one time. Support work has definitely increased—that’s probably 40-50% of our revenue now. So when we launch projects, they go into support and optimization. 

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You said that the sizes of your projects have increased. Does that bring more risk?

It definitely brings more risk. The more technical and larger you get, the more expectations there are. We’ve gone through 12 months of rapid growth and doing more technical things. The fact is, if you have big aspirations, planning is fundamental to ensure that growth happens. High aspirations also need reliable systems and efficient processes. This is crucial to ensuring that the level of quality remains constant as the business grows.

“If you have big aspirations, then planning is fundamental to ensure that growth happens. High aspirations also need reliable systems and efficient processes. This is crucial to ensuring that the level of quality remains constant as the business grows.”

What were your operations like before? Can you name the tools you tried before Productive? What were some pain points you were going through?

To be honest, we have tried many, many different tools. I think 20 or 30 at the time. Over the last 12 months, I don’t think I’ve looked at what’s going on with other systems. I’ve been pretty happy with the way Productive is working. We went right through from things like StreamTime and bespoke platforms like that, which kind of offer a similar approach, right through to enterprise platforms. We’re content with the pace you guys are moving. 

We really struggled to find a system that not only provided all the features we required but was also fast and user-friendly enough that our team could do what’s required without having to read a 30-page manual. Even simple things like releasing checklists on tasks actually have a massive impact and provide us a lot of functionality to be able to manage end-to-end. It’s features like that that have allowed us to bring in our delivery plans from external tools into one platform. 

“We really struggled to find a system that not only provided all the features we required but was also fast and user-friendly enough that our team could do what’s required without having to read a 30-page manual.”

So, would you say that Productive’s roadmap and development are actually following your needs as well?

Yeah, definitely. Having that relationship with you guys, being able to get responses quickly, and knowing that it gets heard is a big benefit for us. You’re not just another customer where you request things and it gets lost in the backlog. There have been many different things we’ve recommended over the years, and we’ve seen those get released in weeks, sometimes months after. For us, that makes us feel good as a customer.

You’ve clearly tried out a lot of different tools. So what was the learning curve like for you in Productive?

I think that’s probably one of the single biggest things why I eventually came across to it. Productive acts and behaves like an enterprise tool, but it doesn’t feel like it. When we looked at some other tools, we really needed to understand the terminology and go through their manuals and training documents to really get an idea of how to go through the end-to-end flow. The way we explain it is: It’s like Trello, it’s super simple, but it has a whole lot more. It’s got multiple boards and it does end-to-end, not just the boards part.

How about your delivery team? Because they’re mostly involved with Productive, was it hard for them to learn how to use Productive—and use it in the best possible way?

I think it was pretty seamless, to be honest. Always, the first time onboarding, when we get a new delivery team, it’s a couple of hours of onboarding. We take them through so they can get familiar with the task. I think it’s got a UX they’re familiar with.

Do you have difficulty with getting people to track time? It’s important for your utilization to keep things up to date in real-time. Has that ever been a challenge for you?

We have a Delivery Lead that manages the resourcing, time approvals, and task updates—that’s definitely improved things a lot. The team understands the importance of tracking. We have a generic, company-wide delivery board, where every moment they understand what they’re doing today, what they’re going to achieve. We update it at the end of the day, going through what we completed and any issues or blockers for the next day. The only real process change we recently had to make was getting everyone to write their daily tasks, to map out what they’re doing and what they’ve done at the end of each day.

How about we touch back on the lockdown situation. In the beginning, everyone was wondering “Are we going to be able to survive this?” Have profitability reports in Productive additionally eased up the anxiety for you?

For me, it was an easy move, because I knew I had the visibility. I know I can jump in anytime and get an understanding of budgets, time, what people are doing, or what’s going on within the business. I’ve spoken to another couple of directors of agencies in Australia and some of them have really struggled to make the shift. They’re using really large, enterprise, ancient tools that just don’t have the real-time capability. The financial reporting that we can get in a couple of clicks—they’re having to get their accountants to go in and drill that data in Excel. Having that insight made it pretty easy. I’m out here in the countryside, pretty relaxed in the middle of this.

After using Productive for about a year and a half now, how has your role shifted, has it become easier? Are you focusing on more decision-making, strategic thinking? How has it changed?

My role was very heavy across the process and workflow of the business 12-18 months ago. Putting in tools like this has allowed me to implement those processes, get the team across it, then sit back and not really have to worry about things. I’m working with the team a little bit closer, upscaling, and playing a lead role across some of our solutions.

Were there things that you discovered in Productive that you didn’t expect you would benefit from at the beginning?

The benefit was finding one system that’s not overly complicated, that can do end-to-end. That was probably the single biggest thing—reducing the amount of tools, platforms, and systems, and using just one. The other benefits that came up, which were never really an area of focus, were the Reporting, the financial capabilities and understanding. Having a platform that considers everybody’s salaries, the operating expenses of the whole business, and feeding that into project budgets and looking at the internal time vs. client time, gives us a lot more real-time and accurate view of the profitability of actual, specific projects. So that was never a focus before, but it’s something I use more than anything right now.

You said profitability wasn’t really looked at before, it wasn’t the number one reason why you purchased Productive. Maybe it wasn’t as important at the time?

I guess I probably never thought I could find a tool that was end-to-end: from leads, through management, financials, insights and reporting. Having it all in one has allowed us to drop a couple of the other platforms we used.

Was this already an internal process in DotDev before—to analyze your profit margins, compare it against your rates, calculate average rates per client? 

I probably take it for granted now, but no, not really (in the same sense). There was a lot of guessing before. We knew that there were hours spent and hours that were quoted, but that was about it. Definitely not down to a level of individual resources or how much time we spent on internal projects. That’s a key thing that we get out of the reports that really feeds into our utilization and resourcing. If we know we’re spending 30% of our time on internal projects, then we know we’ve got the capacity to take on more work.

“That’s a key thing that we get out of the reports that really feeds into our utilization and resourcing. If we know we’re doing 30% on the internal projects, then we know we’ve got the capacity to take on more work.”

Did you calculate utilization before? Did you use other tools?

Not really, to be honest. We definitely didn’t have the visibility to look at.

So, how did you plan hiring before?

A key thing for us around the Scheduling is to essentially place a hold on the projects that are coming in. Now, everyone is locked out for about 3-4 months. We also place a hold on all the deals and sales we have in the pipeline. Now, we can get visibility for over 3-6 months, other than just 4-8 weeks and having to guess. Before, hiring always seemed a lot more like a risk and unknown because you’re kind of guessing based on a gut feeling, which isn’t always the best when you’ve got a lot going on.

Has that eased up the chaos? Do you see more overall satisfaction from your employees?

Yeah, I think less chaotic is the feedback I get, especially when we’re trying to do a team of 20 all at once. They can see two months out what they’re going to be working on, to think or prepare. Maybe they’ve got a bit of upscaling to do, or some research they want to do based on the projects coming in. For them, that just brings on a little bit of anxiety. So, as much visibility and stability they can have, makes it all easier.

Do you have any growth numbers you can share that you think are maybe a product of the switch over to Productive, having everything more organized, all in one place?

A standard QA/UAT phase was taking us around 120-180 hours. We’ve been able to launch a really big enterprise site on the same level, and that went through a testing phase of 60-70 hours. Obviously, there’s a lot of different factors that go into that, like technology and processes, but having all that centralized has made managing those phases remarkably quicker. I think it’s the context of jumping between different tools, then jumping back to Productive where you’re managing the support—that would waste a lot of time.

Any other measurable impact that you can share? 

I think you can directly relate that we’ve grown 50% YoY for the last three years. I don’t think we would have got past 12 employees if we didn’t have Productive. The ability to scale and not have to change processes because it supports any scale or size that we need.

Do you use Productive end-to-end, from pre-sales to invoicing and billing? Do you have a standardized process that you use as a template?

Being a technical company, we kind of went back and forth, toying with the idea of bringing our delivery plans out of Productive. Around 3-4 months ago, we brought everything back from Gitlab into Productive. We’re trying to manage everything end-to-end there. From the initial scoping and delivery boards, we’ve broken down tasks and estimates and everything that the developers are doing, to the QA and testing phases, where the clients are logging issues. Having everything in one place was enough benefit for us to move back to Productive. It’s simpler for clients to understand, they only have access to one thing. From the team’s point of view, they know that they need to come in and look at what they’re doing. Everything that they’re involved in is in Productive, rather than being fragmented out into different systems. 

Is there any project you’re especially proud of that you’d like share?

For us, the biggest shift over the last 12 months has been moving to headless e-commerce. It’s a big shift in the way we approach things, how flexible we are, and what we can provide our clients. We launched one for the AFL store, which is quite a large retail chain here. 

Do you have a favorite feature that you think is the coolest part of Productive?

Over the last six months, I’d say project checklists! I know it seems so simple, but it’s allowed us to bring delivery boards and testing all into one tool. The ability to add filters, pivot the data, charts, have raw data…that saves a lot of time. Essentially, we don’t have to have numerous Google Sheets and exports. We have different data across the platform. 

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